Setback for the Commission: EU MEPs let chat control fail

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That is a weird-ass way to title and write about a good thing.

It’s an issue from the translation



Thank fuck this draconian surveillance law didn’t pass.

This time. They’ll keep trying, like all the times before.

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However, the issue is not yet off the table. Despite the failure in committee, the European Parliament’s plenary session is expected to address the dossier as early as next week. The LIBE decision is considered an official recommendation for the plenary, but further surprises cannot be ruled out in the charged debate. Proponents of chat control in the Commission and the Council of Ministers, who are seeking an extension of the powers until April 2028, will try to close ranks in the plenary. However, should the failure be confirmed there, voluntary chat control would face a swift end.

voluntary chat control

Talk about a fucking misnomer! That’s like calling house arrest “voluntary location management” 🙄

I like the expression “voluntold”.




Well, yes, but also considered that many companies are just implementing invasive identification practices anyway. Discord is just the most recent. It seems to have the added benefit of being an added barrier to market entry for their competitors.

…and out right kills some of those competitors who’s business model depends ds on privacy.

We’re starting to see more and more of this. These tech companies that used to be innovators and favor a somewhat open internet aren’t building for innovation and communication. They’re building dependence.

Between Google, Meta, and Microsoft the average user is being locked into a digital gilded cage. Policed by AI with no heavy censorship and no ownership of data.

Yes this law was defeated but the fight is endless, and right now we need to be watching big tech as much as lawmakers.

It seems to have the added benefit of being an added barrier to market entry for their competitors.

I’m fairly sure the regulations only kick in when the service has something millions monthly active users.


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Well, yes, but also considered that many companies are just implementing invasive identification practices anyway

That’s an incredibly naive way to frame this. The fact is that many companies implemented invasive identification practices already 10 years ago. These laws are an attempt to bring some democratic control to all of it.




See you next time “europe-wide internet surveillance law” ! Probably packeted with an anti terrorism law this time, who knows ?



they are gonna try again until you depose the ones responsible for it.

They only have to succeed once.



The EU Commission is rotten to the core, hence all the shit that comes from it, from authoritarian measures and bending over to America faster than a speeding bullet to custom-made regulations to benefit specific very large companies with an historic of giving gold plated “consultancy” positions to ex-commissioners.

The EU Parliament, on the other hand, is as Democratic as it get, being elected directly by EU Citizens using Proportional Vote.

So this surprises me not one bit.

Everyone in Germany knew this Commission would be full of shit the moment Von Der Leyen was somehow cross-promoted to it (she’s from the famously corrupt conservative “Christian Democrats”, so it’s no wonder she was promoted after screwing things up). We dealt with her bullshit for years prior.



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Rare case of a decent heise article with plenty of detail.

The hit rate of the systems is a minuscule 0.000002735 percent, while the error rate is up to 20 percent. This means that countless harmless private recordings are mistakenly flagged by the filters daily and reviewed by human examiners.

Yeah thats about what i would expect.

However, the Commission’s calculation to push the Parliament into approval through a last-minute submission and artificially created time pressure did not pay off. The MEPs showed little inclination to abandon their previous stance. This involved not extending the provisional arrangement again, but instead finding a permanent regulation. This should exclusively permit targeted measures in cases of concrete suspicion.

Great to hear that the right people found their spines here.

However, the issue is not yet off the table. Despite the failure in committee, the European Parliament’s plenary session is expected to address the dossier as early as next week.

Never any downtime with this shit :(


I want to cheer

However, the issue is not yet off the table.

I will hold off cheering for now

Great news (for now)… See you same time next week!

If there is one law I want to see passed in the EU more than this one, is a law against corporate law spamming.



The price of liberty is constant vigilance, and so forth.

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It’s been this every couple of months for like a year now. They’re just going to keep ramming it through over and over again until they wear down the people, knowing full well that it’s way harder to repeal existing legislation.



A rapist is better at understanding “no” than these shitheads


Setback? Fail? What’s with the negative title? I see this as an absolute win.

Hey man, that consent ain’t gonna manufacture itself!

Heise isn’t normally known to side with the totalitarian elements.



Skimming through the article, it also sounds pretty negative.


It might be AI translated or translated by someone who isn’t proficient enough to do so.
The German article is written in a more neutral to leaning against it tone.

“Schlappe” is a German “Newspaper” expression denoting someone or something failed, but from a standpoint of an observer that is mostly against it.
It’s not a “positive” or neutral term of failure.



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