piefed.eePeter Thiel comes to Paris to speak about the Antichrist
lumpenproletariatwww.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/01…
Peter Thiel’s visit to the Institute of France, a learned society in the heart of Paris, was kept secret until the very last moment. There, behind closed doors, he was due to speak at a meeting of members of the Academy of Moral and Political Sciences, a working group intended to discuss “the future of democracy.” The group, chaired by former minister Hervé Gaymard, has previously interviewed 25 figures, all French, mainly legal scholars, political scientists and historians.
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A bit self centred of him to travel around and talk about himself in the third person
As funny as these jokes are, people really aren’t catching what he’s up to:
Thiel sees Christianity as a threat to his goals and ambitions, so he’s trying to re-code it. his angle is that “Anti-Christianity” is being “anti-AI”. That’s his whole angel and it’s dumb af, but he’s trying to get ahead of the narrative that’s ripe for the picking of calling AI the next TOWER of BABEL or some sort of false god, which is it much closer to in actuality.
UnderpantsWeevilThiel sees Christianity as a threat to his goals and ambitions, so he’s trying to re-code it.
Oh cool. He’s trying to be the next Joseph Smith.
apfelwoiSchoppenHe knows no other way, as long as his blood boy comes with him.
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He is talking about himself?
You can’t help but wonder at a man with this much wealth and power getting up in the morning, looking in the mirror, and thinking that highly of himself.
But no. Shitheels like Thiel have existed since time immemorial. He’s not the Antichrist. Just another stupid rich asshole.
EldritchWell, I have to give him this. If there’s anyone qualified to talk about the anti-Christ, it is an anti-Christ. Sadly, they’re incapable of saying anything truthful.
from the BTB episode on this, some of his candidates for the antichrist are just people he fell out with on Twitter lol
NOT_RICK
red_green_blackConvenient that the devil wants to bring about an International system that doesn’t allow him to be a techno-corporate feudal lord
I looked into his worldview a bit when the San Francisco lecture happened, and it is deeply, deeply fucked up.
There is a certain allure because it’s based on a well-known philosophal thread of “mimetic theory” (filtered through a then-contemporary Nazi apologist, and Silicon Valley hubris) and for all it’s “Anti-Christ” talk, it doesn’t even 100% require a supernatural belief system, just the commitment to one as an outward-facing and socially enforceable ideology. What makes it so fucked up and dangerous is the almost Foundation-like orthopraxy that it demands.
The gist, IIRC, is that humans want and need something stable to copy from to know what they want, and that modernish (like in the last 300 years) interpretations of major religions, but particularly Christianity, have landed on a perfect balance of giving people boundaries, aspirations, and just enough freedom to keep society going. Therefore, the only way to avoid falling back onto outmoded and dangerous practices like mass scape-goating is to get huge blocks of people invested in that worldview. Ideally it would be the whole world in one ideology, but their nod to reality is to concede that three or four could survive in tension if they’re geographically insulated.
So moving onto the Antichrist, anyone or (importantly for the Thiel version specifically) anything* that poses an existential threat to this orderly control of society risks chaos and a descent into destruction and with a Christian context can therefore be comfortably called the/an “Antichrist.” If Palantir watching literally everyone and everything means the enforcement of “western” values on western populations, then opposing that is dangerous to humanity and therefore a threat. Fighting that threat is a crusade, and even justifies the interim use of tactics that will ultimately be rendered moot by the imposition of a religio-philosophical order, such as mass scaepgoating and pogroms (coughjdvancecough*).
Then, just as the classist cherry on top, remember that the supernatural part of this is all just to make sure that the stupids buy into the same worldview as the elites who will preserve society by controlling it and directing it towards self-sustaining power structures. So a Thiel can be gay, and a Thiel acolyte like Vance (we’ll look past Musk for now, as I think they probably view him more as a lucky and useful idiot) can marry a Hindu woman from one of the viable global powerbases (though we’re seeing cracks in that as current political realities weigh on him), and he doesn’t even really have to believe any of the specifically dominionist nonsense he preaches, as long as the MAGA rubes do. What it does give them is a handhold where they can legitimately believe that they’re doing what’s best for the world by trying to dominate it, *and that is fucking terrifying*.
As an aside, Thiel’s philosophical mentor would have been very nearly as horrified as most of us are by the conclusions he’s reached, and this is why you don’t let the software engineers think they’re the only ones who are smart, simply because it’s harder to do calculus than write a B+ Freshman essay. If Girard is “love each other or we all face ruin,” Thiel is “love each other, or we all face ruin, but you’re too stupid to love each other unless a brutal technostate surveillance apparatus enforces adherence to a love-based religion.”
It’s interesting to note that he’s Vance’s patron and possibly puppet-master.
Unless the people of the US somehow manage to armour their system against oligarchy, this kind of not-quite-healthy (arguably more than a bit sociopathic) persons will keep pushing their puppets to center stage, where they’ll damage the interests of common people quite badly.
Make Oligarchs Go Away
I’ll just leave a translation of the french anthem here:
Let us go, children of the fatherland,
The day of glory has arrived!
Against us of tyranny
The bloody standard is raised! (twice)
Do you hear, in the countryside,
Those fierce soldiers bellowing?
They are coming right up to our arms
To slit the throats of our wives & children!
To arms, citizens! Form your battalions!
Let’s march, let’s march!
Let an impure blood water our furrows!
What does this horde of slaves, traitors,
And conspiring kings mean to do?
For whom are these ignoble chains,
These irons prepared long ago? (twice)
French persons, for us, ah! what outrage,
What transports it must excite!
It’s us they dare think
Of returning to the ancient slavery!
To arms, etc.
What! These foreign cohorts think
They can make the law in our land?
What, these mercenary phalanxes think
They can overthrow our proud warriors? (twice)
Good God! They think our brows will be bent
Beneath the yoke by hands enchained?
That vile despots will become
The masters of our fates?
To arms, etc.
Tremble, tyrants, and you, perfidious ones,
The shame of all parties;
Tremble! Your parricidal plans
Are going at last to receive their reward! (twice)
Everyone’s a soldier to combat you.
If they fall, our young heroes,
The earth produces more of them,
Completely ready to fight against you!
To arms, etc.
Frenchmen, as generous warriors,
Deliver or withhold your blows!
Spare those sad victims,
Arming against you against their will. (twice)
But those bloody despots,
Those accomplices of Bouillé,
All those tigers that, pitiless,
Rend their mother’s bosom…grrr!
To arms, etc.
Sacred love of the Fatherland,
Guide, sustain our avenging arms;
Liberty, cherished Liberty,
Fight alongside your defenders! (twice)
Beneath our banners may victory
Come in a hurry to your manly accents;
May your enemies, expiring,
See your triumph and our glory!
To arms, etc.
Lukas MurchIs he pro-anti- christ or anti-anti-christ? I never know these days.
There was a time in a past life that I believed in and followed fundamental Christianity. But as soon as the hypocrisy started eating away at my conscience I left.
Thiel has no conscience so will never learn that his belief system is bullshit.
DarkFutureOne of the biggest losers on the planet.
You’ve gotta put a lot of effort into obtaining that title.
I worry about the Antichrist.
Well let me fix that for you.
He doesn’t exist, its a fable that most children grow out of. Further more, he doesn’t even exist in the Bible, and most of him was made up after the fictional Bible was written
Problem solved
derfunkatronAnd then, if you do take into account the Book of Revelations, Nostradamus, various 20th-century evangelical ramblings, and the 1976 historical documentary, The Omen, the people who are most likely candidates for antichrist are Trump, Thiel, Musk, Ellison, etc.
Maybe Thiel is worried about who his father really is.
sanguis bibimus corpus edimus
Meh, still all favors and fantasy as NONE of those characters exist
I mean, yeah. My point was that the people who believe in fantastical boogeymen are the most likely to support the people who are the closest to being the actual Antichrist if any of that were real.
If the Antichrist concept is coherent at all, it’s instantiated by Thiel and the other members of his anti-democracy death cult. For him to target anyone who wants to save the environment and the light of civilization is a fascinating uno-reverse. Let’s see how it goes.
What is the old saying?: “If you cannot say sonething that puts you on a terror watch list, better say nothing”
Why is this human shit stain still allowed in Europe? This guy would love to see the destruction of Europe, so yay, let him come to Europe to talk about his weird ass insanity ideas?
I know the world has always been stupid and people have always sucked, but right now really does feel extremely stupid and people seem to suck exceptionally in current times.
mlgI made a half joke last year that the antichrist would probably be an AI model that convinces people to worship it.
And here he is saying that’s totally not going to happen.
Seems legit lol.
MeursaultI guess Mr. Thiel would know, considering the Anti-Christ is his employer.
The anti-Christ that doesn’t know or is pretending that he doesn’t know he’s an anti-Christ, seeks to warn people of people like him, but not him specifically because he’s warning them about it, so it can’t possibly be him.
He knows they can’t vote over here, right? No reason to stump for the orange moron over there.
Don’t we already have enough nutters in Europe?
Yeah, and he’s one of them, German made, although you could argue that being raised in the US is what made him a psychopath.
They let this guy in to the EU? Who’s vetting people, this guy needs a mental institution, not a podium.
I’ll just leave a translation of the french anthem here:
Let us go, children of the fatherland,
The day of glory has arrived!
Against us of tyranny
The bloody standard is raised! (twice)
Do you hear, in the countryside,
Those fierce soldiers bellowing?
They are coming right up to our arms
To slit the throats of our wives & children!
To arms, citizens! Form your battalions!
Let’s march, let’s march!
Let an impure blood water our furrows!
What does this horde of slaves, traitors,
And conspiring kings mean to do?
For whom are these ignoble chains,
These irons prepared long ago? (twice)
French persons, for us, ah! what outrage,
What transports it must excite!
It’s us they dare think
Of returning to the ancient slavery!
To arms, etc.
What! These foreign cohorts think
They can make the law in our land?
What, these mercenary phalanxes think
They can overthrow our proud warriors? (twice)
Good God! They think our brows will be bent
Beneath the yoke by hands enchained?
That vile despots will become
The masters of our fates?
To arms, etc.
Tremble, tyrants, and you, perfidious ones,
The shame of all parties;
Tremble! Your parricidal plans
Are going at last to receive their reward! (twice)
Everyone’s a soldier to combat you.
If they fall, our young heroes,
The earth produces more of them,
Completely ready to fight against you!
To arms, etc.
Frenchmen, as generous warriors,
Deliver or withhold your blows!
Spare those sad victims,
Arming against you against their will. (twice)
But those bloody despots,
Those accomplices of Bouillé,
All those tigers that, pitiless,
Rend their mother’s bosom…grrr!
To arms, etc.
Sacred love of the Fatherland,
Guide, sustain our avenging arms;
Liberty, cherished Liberty,
Fight alongside your defenders! (twice)
Beneath our banners may victory
Come in a hurry to your manly accents;
May your enemies, expiring,
See your triumph and our glory!
To arms, etc.
leftascenterI find Laibach’s Francia a fun update
BlackmistI am still convinced this entire tour is just SEO. Now when people google “Peter Thiel Antichrist” they just get results of people talking about his uninformed and terrible readings of Revelations, rather than people accusing him of being the Antichrist.
Lucy :3Now I have SouthParks Jingle about Thiel and the Antichrist in my head
Localhorst86Parisians have the chance to do the funniest thing imaginable…
thats exactly how the anti-christ would do it, come to a public forum, usually UN headquarters.
SibboThat’s quite impolite, unless the antichrist is invited as well.
DudeImMacGyver
SeductiveTortoiseHe doesn’t have to. We already know who he is.
anti-christ does like to hear themselves talking. Also anti-christ often has a puppet they mind controlled(trump)
Can’t he be barred from entering the EU? Fucking fascist needs to be put into a mental asylum.
I hope the antichrist is aware that they still have quite a bit of guillotines laying around in Paris.
paraphrandThe first talk(s) never leaked, did they?
There was a behind the bastards episode about it, I think someone took notes on the first one and got kicked out
Grant_MI believe he is the real world inspiration for Andrew Ryan in the BioShock games even though they claim it was Ayn Rand and Howard Hughes.
He’s the real world inspiration for the mealy shit I squeezed out of my ass this morning, even though some claim it was that Jersey Mike’s chipotle chicken philly with jalapeños I had yesterday. Don’t worry, I’m not gonna link anything.
So glad he could find the time to self promote like that. I mean he is so busy destroying the American Economy and Privacy, he must have found it so important to rant about him being the Dark Messiah and covering up those number birthmarks so he could go out in society…
I’m now imagining that Peter Thiel is actually possessed by a demon, and these speeches are the human who was caged inside his husk, trying to warn us of the bloated satanic demonstration possessing Theil’s body.
There was a BtB on this. Essentially, from what the podcast creator can glean from what information has leaked, data center opposition, tech opposition, privacy proponents are the Antichrist.
But until someone sits in on the entire thing and waits it out until the end before posting to social media, we will not have the full context, not really know what this man is saying.
Can you imagine being born French, growing up in a culture that is so educated, so culturally refined, so cynical of everything and with such a jaundiced eye towards everything America is about, then becoming a political scholar in that society - only to be completely fooled by a random visit from Peter Thiel?
Can you imagine being a member of the Académie des Sciences Morales et Politiques and finding out someone above you organised, approved, and kept this from you? How could anyone have faith in such an institution after this.
I’d be devastated. A call for resignations would not be out of order.
I’m french and I’m not surprised. A lot of our “elites” are 183 years old men with a giant ego and will cling to anyone and anything going their way